[Spread-users] Public CVS?
george at omniti.com
Mon Sep 17 17:26:56 EDT 2001
I have something of a compromise (which may either please no one or
everyone). How about setting up a web-form for auto cvs account creation,
with a random password mailed back to you. This guarantees the same level
of auditability that you currently have, without necessitating going through
some sort of (percieved) human validation process, thus reducing both the
administrative overhead and making cvs access 'instantaneous' to whomever
p.s. (I'm still +1 on normal anonymous access if you ever change your mind)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Stanton" <jonathan at cnds.jhu.edu>
To: "Jon Stevens" <jon at latchkey.com>
Cc: <spread-users at lists.spread.org>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spread-users] Public CVS?
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 12:25:57PM -0700, Jon Stevens wrote:
> > on 9/15/01 9:38 PM, "Jonathan Stanton" <jonathan at cnds.jhu.edu> wrote:
> > > The current CVS server does not allow anonymous access, but anyone
> > > requesting access is granted it. Right now about 8 people internal to
> > > CNDS have accounts and 6 people external to CNDS have accounts. We
> > > out the issue of what type of CVS access to provide about a month ago
> > > chose not to provide anonymous access for now. We don't plan to change
> > > that in the immediate future unless the situation changes, but want to
> > > keep an open mind as the project and community evolve.
> > I guess I should go now and check a copy of the source code into anon
> > sourceforge.
> No one has ever said to me (at least) why they want anonymous cvs and what
> it gives them that they do not have right now. I know a number of projects
> do have anonymous cvs, but even more do not have any cvs at all.
> I want to support anyone who wants to be a part of Spread, but that does
> not extend to being anyone's servant who does what he is told. In the same
> way you are free to do anything you want, that is permitted by the
> license, but what I think is better is for us to work together. If you
> want to work on Spread, just go ahead, use cvs yourself to manage your
> changes and if you want to contribute them, lets talk about the patches on
> the list and merge them. Right now most of the Spread development occurs
> at the lab so that is what we spend our time on. As more of the work is
> done outside the project will have to evolve to support that different set
> of developers.
> > Also, I still haven't seen an answer to my question:
> > > If not, why?
> I believed this had been discussed a month ago and did not want to rehash
> it. I still do not want to do that, and do not have time to. Others were
> involved in that discussion.
> I view cvs as a technical tool that provides certain services. If there is
> a service you cannot get from what we have setup right now (besides
> anonymity), tell us (and the list) and we can see how to achieve that
> service if it is useful and good for everyone.
> > No offense, but so far at least 6 people have requested it. How many
> > votes do you need?
> I didn't believe it was an election. I view projects, especially ones as
> small as Spread, to work on consensus, not democracy. When they get large
> enough that everyone can't have a conversation together and agree, then
> you go the next step to more scalable management and decision making but
> Spread is not anywhere near that size yet.
> One suggestion someone had was an automated web form that generates cvs
> accounts. I do want to do that and hopefully will get it working sometime
> Jonathan R. Stanton jonathan at cs.jhu.edu
> Dept. of Computer Science
> Johns Hopkins University
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