[Spread-users] Spread and select
Hua Zhong
hzhong at gmail.com
Mon Apr 10 14:50:40 EDT 2006
Hi John,
Thanks for the reply.
> Hua Zhong wrote:
>
> >Good, but there are a couple of issues:
> >1. it's not documented, thus making me wonder if it's officially
> >supported feature. In fact, there is not even a
> SP_mailbox_to_fd kind of helper. How could one assume mailbox
> == fd? It's implementation details that could change anytime,
> and nothing to depend on.
> >
> >
>
> You can count on a mailbox being a socket descriptor in
> Spread. If that isn't in the official documentation right
> now, then we'll be sure to add it with the new release.
That would be great!
> >2. there is still not a non-blocking version SP_receive. As
> I explained earlier, it's not very nice to programers.
>
> You are correct that right now there is no non-blocking
> version of SP_receive. This was a decision made a long time
> ago in Spread's development. The idea was that if there is
> activity on the file descriptor (i.e. - incoming data), then
> the entire incoming message should be there "soon." It is
> true that this can cause blocking behavior if, for example,
> the TCP/IP link between the client and server is slow for some reason.
Actually, I am not mainly worried about slow TCP/IP connections. I am worried about the race that a poll returns "there is data",
and when the time of receive comes, the data has been gone. In a lot of cases we want an atomic non-blocking "poll+receive". People
writing software in such a model try very hard to do any blocking calls, it's just the way it is.
> The real way to make SP_receive non-blocking is to have each
> connection store partial messages internally when it blocks
> until it has collected an entire message that it can deliver.
> By default, the maximum Spread msg size is ~100K. In the
> past, we were reluctant to complicate the client library
> further and either always allocate 100K per connection or
> dynamically allocate memory as necessary.
I am not sure if I've got what you are saying, but a non-blocking SP_receive should never, erh, block.
It should work this way:
1) if there is no data, return -EAGAIN;
2) if there is data, read it. If the data is only a partial message, store it in a static buffer for each mailbox (which has max of
100K), and return -EGAIN.
3) if there is complete data now in the buffer, return the message to caller.
There is never blocking. The caller would have to expect SP_receive_nb() to return EGAIN even if SP_poll tells there is data. It's
the whole point of having non-blocking calls: SP_poll never promises a complete message.
Since it would be a new API, it doesn't break any current applications.
If you think this is a good enhancement, I'm willing to send you a patch.
Hua
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